Gene Beasley
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« on: June 05, 2008, 05:47:52 PM » |
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I'm kind of puzzled by the lack of activity here, particularly in light of the amount of activity at OCDO. I don't have a stake in this from the standpoint that it was conceived and built before I even found OCDO. I've been mulling over a thought for the past couple of weeks. It seems NWCDL in a way duplicates many things in OCDO (and/or THR or TFL). While I don't want to detract from any of the activism stuff on OCDO relating to TB's, updates on recent opinions, problem local codes being worked on; it seems like NWCDL would be a nice place to focus on these things. Perhaps make it a learning place for fledgling activists and maybe keep us all on track. Not that the world would end if Lonnie or Dave Workman moved to another state, but it would sure be nice to start building on their knowledge, contacts and backgrounds (or mine, or yours).
Okay, so I've rambled on enough. I'm hoping to start a conversation that doesn't end after three posts. I'm thinking of things like organization, training (effective communication with powers that be, legislators), possibly gaining nonprofit status and funding viable cases that would benefit all of us. I don't see where we are going to gain ground in Olympia, but I sure do get the sense that the Supremes are leaning toward our side. Organizational skills is not my strong suit. Right now, I'm feeling visionary. Hope you can decipher something out of all this.
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« Reply #1 on: June 07, 2008, 02:39:44 PM » |
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It did seem there was a lot of interest and then the posts kinda went kersplat. My own take I was busy with a writing project. But I will offer this: I think people are in a activist holding pattern until Heller goes one way or the other. I also believe after the flurry of activity that pressing issues with various groups and factions (mainly law enforcement) were taken care off.
I thought this board was the perfect blend of CCWers who weren't holier then thou, and OCers who weren't in your face.
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« Reply #2 on: June 07, 2008, 03:13:37 PM » |
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It did seem there was a lot of interest and then the posts kinda went kersplat. My own take I was busy with a writing project. But I will offer this: I think people are in a activist holding pattern until Heller goes one way or the other. I also believe after the flurry of activity that pressing issues with various groups and factions (mainly law enforcement) were taken care off.
I thought this board was the perfect blend of CCWers who weren't holier then thou, and OCers who weren't in your face.
I have to agree with the fact that activism has slowed way down waiting for the Heller ruling from SCOTUS. Unfortunately it will do almost nothing to effect any law in Wa. as we have fairly liberal gun laws. Geeze they cannot even get the so-called gunshow loophole closed. Personally I think we need to begin attacking the Higher Education Committee to get Sen. Roach's bill pushed through and signed next session. It was pushed really close to the end of the last session but there was overwhelming response and the outlook of it looked good, if it wasn't for the lack of time that was left. Once we can get that passed we can probably look into expanding the scope of pre-emption and making it clear that municipalities or thier district entities cannot in any way, shape, or form limit the possession of firearms unless it is unlawful under state law whether it be by municipal code or administrative rule.
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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Frued
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Gene Beasley
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« Reply #3 on: June 07, 2008, 04:01:08 PM » |
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I agree on the Higher Education Committee and a revitalized SB 6860. I don't think it stands a chance of being signed (if ever voted on) under the current Gov. One place that I visit every so often is the bradycampaign to look at our state scorecard compared to the other states. It's almost like they give us a roadmap of things to work on - just in the opposite direction  . Ah, visions of being ranked #50 on the Brady state list.
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« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2008, 04:06:57 PM » |
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Ahhh yes, wouldn't it be nice to be ranked #50 on their site.
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"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." - Sigmund Frued
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Wilrobnson
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 11:00:02 PM » |
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I personally have been really busy with work and not able to cruise the various forums and boards in my 'favorites' folders in a LONG time. I also still refuse to join OC.org, and enjoy the small amount of traffic here. It's slow sometimes, but there's usually nuggets versus the dust on other forums.
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Gene Beasley
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2008, 01:28:45 AM » |
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I agree, to some extent, about the signal to noise ratio at OCDO. BobCav is a member moderator, now living on the east side and he does step in occasionally to keep things on track. There's been many a time that I have self-censored in the interest of keeping a thread from turning into a pissing match. Outside of the wa-ccw yahoo group, I have found OCDO to be one of the best sources on RCWs, legal opinions. Those who provide that incite are here as well, but I work a job that requires multitasking and 12 hours in front of an internet capable computer. I guess I need the constant flow of new information.
Is there something about OC that keeps you from joining or is it just the nature of the forum, if you don't mind my asking?
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2008, 08:20:44 PM » |
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but there's usually nuggets versus the dust on other forums.
LOL I have to remember that one. Unfortunately you are correct. When forums get busy there tends to be a lot of fluff on it.
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Wilrobnson
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« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2008, 09:12:57 PM » |
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Is there something about OC that keeps you from joining or is it just the nature of the forum, if you don't mind my asking?
I have no problem with the nature of the forum. Whilst I don't open carry, I support the idea and 'movement' 110%. I dislike what I perceive as a strong anti-LEO attitude present there. Granted, some street cops are idiots when it comes to remembering every law on the books, 100% correctly, 100% of the time, and a lot of the young ones still carry the "I'll just threaten them with arrest" thought process, but a lot of the members seem to paint every LEO with the 'they're all JBTs!' brush.
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just_a_car
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« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2008, 06:50:51 PM » |
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My reason for not being that active here is school. I can only concentrate on one or two forums at a time. Any more than that and I'm doing more forum-browsing/posting than I am studying. Unfortunately, I've had to cut out one of my favorite forums (GunAndGame.com) for a while because they got so popular and busy that it took me about 3-4 hours of reading/posting to get through a few days-worth of material.
Just cuz I don't post or am absent for a while doesn't mean I don't remember I need to stop in here once in a while. I am trying to stay current on OCDO and concentrate there because it's getting so much PR in mainstream media recently.
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