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« on: June 10, 2008, 11:18:17 AM »

I haven't seen any discussion about this, so thought I would start.  Does this "Executive Order" violate 9.41.290 (the states pre-emption law.)

This is not a law that has been enacted, nor an ordinance.  Does this order carry weight of law?  If someone is arrested will they be charged with violating "Executive Order" such-and-such?

As far as I can find out, an executive order only applies to his executive employees, it's more of a directive.  It is not a law, and carries no force of law.  If that's the case, then this doesn't violate 9.41.290, and actually has no effect on the population at all and is just a "feel good" smokescreen.

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2008, 05:39:40 PM »

Yes, it violates states preemption law. If someone is arrested they will be charaged with stupid things like "obstructing a police officer" "tresspass" (in a public place no less) and "public nuisance/disturbing the police" or other such BS.

He's gonna get sued.
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« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2008, 09:49:15 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 01:58:27 AM »

The arguments Nickels are the same as the citations used by the Deputy City Attorney for Federal Way in his reply to me.  I took two to three months reading, rereading, writing, editing, rewriting before I came to the conclusion that I was sending them everything they needed to prepare for any litigation should it come to that.  This is when I contacted Mark Knapp to discuss the issue.  I had the option of sending the letter out under my name or on his letterhead.  I opted for his letterhead, you can find it here.  I also sent a letter to each council member.  Mark attempted phone contact with Walls, there has been no reply to either Mark or me, going on 20+ days.

Attached is my draft that was not sent.  Over on OCDO, either joerocket or gregma encapsulated the gist of it.  For PSNPA, there was the contractual relationship, for Cherry, there was the employer/employee relationship and these where specifically cited as "They were not laws or regulations of application to the general public."  Application to the general public is the theme and should be repeated as often and wherever you can.

* Federal Way 2.pdf (29.31 KB - downloaded 61 times.)
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2008, 02:03:38 AM »

In rereading my letter, I'm glad I didn't send it as it.  Sounds kind of smarmy.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2008, 10:25:39 AM »

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« Reply #6 on: June 17, 2008, 09:01:11 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2008, 06:29:06 PM »

Yea I have to choke it back down everytime I read an article in the paper about him and the EO.
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 10:46:03 AM »

They will NEVER understand that the only people gun bans make it safe for are the criminals.  Well, the will never understand until they are attacked.  Although the ones spouting gun control are usually the ones who do carry guns but just want it restricted to only them...
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« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2008, 02:17:39 AM »

Aint that the truth.
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