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« on: September 07, 2007, 11:32:36 PM »

http://www.gunownersca.com/news/display/?id=336

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Microstamping Bill Passes out of CA Senate....Posted on 09-07-2007

Gun Control advocates, the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence, have won a round in California with the passage of AB 1471 out of the state Senate.

The measure requires an identification mark on each cartridge casing of a semi-auto pistol. Given the name Microstamping, the make, model and serial number of the pistol is encrypted, etched, imprinted, on at least two inside surfaces or on the working parts of the pistol when it is fired. Any new semi-automatic pistol that is not so equipped will be placed on the "unsafe handgun" list that is regulated by the state. Handguns on the "unsafe list" cannot be sold in California.

The list of those in support of AB 1471 reads like a Who's Who of the extremist anti-gun crowd: Mayors of the cities of Los Angeles and San Francisco; Police Chiefs and Departments of the Liberal Counties on California's west coast; Sheriffs and their Associations in those same liberal counties, and others of the same anti-gun mindset.

GOC takes it place proudly in the list of those in opposition to this bill for we know that this bill is less about catching criminals than it is about curbing gun ownership. With this one measure, selling of semi-auto pistols in California is in jeopardy, for gun manufacturers have all along strongly warned that this flawed, imperfect technology will cost them too much to retool and produce for just one state.

AB 1471 passed out of the Senate by ONE vote: Yes Votes: Alquist, Calderon R, Cedillo, Corbett, Florez, Kehoe, Kuehl, Lowenthal, Machado, Migden, Oropeza, Padilla, Perata, Ridley-Thomas, Romero, Scott, Simitian, Steinberg, Torlakson, Wiggins, and Yee. No Votes: Aanestad, Ackerman, Ashburn, Battin, Cogdill, Correa, Cox, Denham, Ducheny, Dutton, Harman, Hollingsworth, Maldonado, Margett, McClintock, Runner G, and Wyland.

Not voting: Negrete McLeod and Vincent. (Not voting is considered as a "no" vote.)

The measure goes back to the Assembly now for reconciliation of the Senate amendments and an Assembly Concurrence vote. After those few days, the bill will travel to the Governor's desk. The Governor has some options: to sign the bill, to VETO the bill, or to do nothing and let it come into law without a signature.


So I have two questions.

1) Are revolvers now considered the only 'safe' guns in California?

2) Which method of defeating this 'technology' would be most efficient? Utilizing a brass catcher on your semi-auto or filing the teensy tiny 'stamps' into oblivion so no identifying marks are left on your spent casings.

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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2007, 01:01:17 AM »

Here's a fun one to think about:

Step One: Gang banger goes to a public shooting range and picks up a bunch of brass in calibers that match the guns he owns (likely illegally owns).

Step Two: Gang banger shoots someone dead.

Step Three: Gang banger picks up his brass and puts down the brass he collected at the range.

Step Four: Gang banger laughs his ass off while law-abiding citizens are questioned about their whereabouts.

Is there something wrong with this picture?...
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2007, 09:07:45 AM »

No a gangbanger would never ever try to subvert the law and frame an Innocent bystander Shocked there good people like you and me (they just kill every once and a while)
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2007, 11:38:42 AM »

Yes, there's something wrong with this picture.

No one thinks, before creating or signing onto legislation that only has the veneer of safety and security.

I hear there are city ordinances in Sacramento that require a retailer to keep ammunition sales logs and there is a requirement for owners to report the loss or theft of their firearms within 48 hours-

http://www.sacbee.com/101/story/309666.html

Who is the burden of responsibility on? Criminals? No, its on the law abidiing.

Every piece of legislation, every abrogation of our rights comes down to one thing...

A knee jerk response that makes tyrants 'feel' better.

That is why I think it is necessary to resist at every level any new restriction- and believe that if you call yourselves 'pro-gun' and at the same time, object only with your mouth and not your actions,... well, then, you're as responsible for new gun laws as the legislators are.
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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2007, 06:18:10 PM »

What I really want to know is where the HECK was the NRA on this issue?  This should never have seen the light of day.  First built-in locks that you need a key for and that can malfunction when you truely need to defend your life, now another piece added to a gun to make it more unreliable.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2007, 10:32:28 AM »

The unfortunate thing is that it makes you wish that the manufacturers would stop selling to California, but this would probably give some sort of morale victory to the nutjobs that we don't want.

The stupid thing is that I read an article about how a lot of thugs have already switched to revolvers because they don't eject the brass already.

Remember, crimminals are only commiting crimes like rape, robbery & murder because we don't have strict enough controls on firearms.
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2007, 05:38:20 PM »

Actually, a manufacturer has already stepped up and stopped selling to California law enforcement for the ban on .50 BMG.

Barrett will not sell to or service weapons for any California agency.  

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200306/NAT20030609b.html

Now, Im sure the law provides law enforcement an exemption that makes it possible for them to carry weapons that do not microstamp casings... but if most manufacturers followed Barrett's example, it would be interesting to see what the outcome would be.

Curious headlines cross my mind- like:

"CHP Issues Chinese Surplus AK-47's for Tactical Use"
"Ammunition Shortage Saps City Police Firepower, Training"
"Sheriff to Deputies- Bring your own weapons..."
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2007, 04:42:25 AM »

Better yet C3: "Police asking people to trade in their gun parts for shoe parts to fix their firearms."
ROFL!
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2007, 12:40:31 PM »

Another side to the lack of thought put into this law is the number of existing guns that don't have this "feature".

I'm glad I don't live in CA and have to support the idiots in their State Assembly.  I wonder if the entire assembly could make one complete, and working, brain?
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« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2007, 08:21:24 AM »

I'm glad I don't live in CA and have to support the idiots in their State Assembly.  I wonder if the entire assembly could make one complete, and working, brain?

The scarier part is...  They don't elect themselves.  Think of what kind of people would elect them...   Shocked
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« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2007, 05:32:27 PM »

Why waste their money on fighting an unenforcable law?  Remember when Hi-Cap magazines were outlawed?  Did anyone really have any difficulty finding one when they wanted one?  There were so many manufactured before the effective date of the law they had warehouses full.

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